Comments on: Testing Times http://theboysaunders.com/2007/08/testing-times/ You Little Punks Think You Own This Town... Mon, 21 May 2012 02:11:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Phil http://theboysaunders.com/2007/08/testing-times/#comment-186 Phil Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:50:49 +0000 http://theboysaunders.com/2007/08/testing-times/#comment-186 <em>"I think the concern should be more on the likelyhood of reoffending, not the original crime, as such."</em> But you can't pre-emptively punish people for crimes that they may commit in the future... And the point of prison, as much as punishment, is re-education and rehabilitation. At least, in theory. <em>"As far as the deportation side of things go, I am all in favour of it, but as soon as they are found guilty, not after they’ve served there sentence."</em> Agreed, although there's no guarantee that another country would agree to sentence one of their citizens for crimes commited under the UK's jurisdiction... “I think the concern should be more on the likelyhood of reoffending, not the original crime, as such.”

But you can’t pre-emptively punish people for crimes that they may commit in the future… And the point of prison, as much as punishment, is re-education and rehabilitation. At least, in theory.

“As far as the deportation side of things go, I am all in favour of it, but as soon as they are found guilty, not after they’ve served there sentence.”

Agreed, although there’s no guarantee that another country would agree to sentence one of their citizens for crimes commited under the UK’s jurisdiction…

]]> By: Jim http://theboysaunders.com/2007/08/testing-times/#comment-183 Jim Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:14:00 +0000 http://theboysaunders.com/2007/08/testing-times/#comment-183 Ok, the tabloids grabbed the human rights aspect as it'd get attention, but that isn't the problem. The problem is the EU and the freedom of citizens of member states to move between countries. "if a convicted criminal can show that he or she is normally resident in the country which is trying to deport him, the courts need to take that into account, along with the risk he or she poses, before sanctioning his/her removal. " If, however, this case was treated more in the way of Jamie Bulger and the release of Terry Venables and Robert Thompson, and how they had to go into hiding, change of ID, and in effect spend rest of their lives looking over their shoulders. Even though their crimes are heinous and my own personal views, they have served their punishment. They may return to society, but at what cost to themselves and their family. I think the concern should be more on the likelyhood of reoffending, not the original crime, as such. As far as the deportation side of things go, I am all in favour of it, but as soon as they are found guilty, not after they've served there sentence. Ok, the tabloids grabbed the human rights aspect as it’d get attention, but that isn’t the problem. The problem is the EU and the freedom of citizens of member states to move between countries.
“if a convicted criminal can show that he or she is normally resident in the country which is trying to deport him, the courts need to take that into account, along with the risk he or she poses, before sanctioning his/her removal. ”

If, however, this case was treated more in the way of Jamie Bulger and the release of Terry Venables and Robert Thompson, and how they had to go into hiding, change of ID, and in effect spend rest of their lives looking over their shoulders.

Even though their crimes are heinous and my own personal views, they have served their punishment. They may return to society, but at what cost to themselves and their family.

I think the concern should be more on the likelyhood of reoffending, not the original crime, as such.

As far as the deportation side of things go, I am all in favour of it, but as soon as they are found guilty, not after they’ve served there sentence.

]]>